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Back to run with my Audi 100

#1 Beitrag von Emiliano »

Dear people
After a while of staying off-line, here I am to say hi, and tell you people some things that happened during the last year.

First of all, give my best regards to the dear Gotze. An incredible german football player, who will never kick a goal like the last one in the finale against us. Sorry, I'll rephrase, perhaps he will, in the FIFA Soccer 2015, or some of the computers games surely he has at his home.
(nahhh....congratulations people! it hurts a little right her, but don't worry, it happens :wink: )

Second thing: About middle year of 2015, I was talking with the dear Klaus, regarding rubber mountings that I need for the Typ43. The ones installed were the original ones!, never changed, and broken. So, I buy the rubbers once Klaus and Jorg (yeap! Both of them helped me) confirmed that I'm buying the correct ones, and a few days after Klaus had a crash against a tractor with his car, the saga continues in Argentina with another Typ43 crash.

My girlfriend and I were driving by the highway, 02:00hs, almost getting home. I took the way out, slowly, and when I was close to the toll post (perhaps 20 mts), a Citroen C4 Hatchback model 2008 hit me in the rear. Two guys at the wheel, the driver was overdose with who knows what kind of drug, the other one was almost drunk. The impact, I believe it was at no less than 60/70km, could be more I think. They’d never seen the toll post or our car.

It was amazing the behavior of the Audi 100. The car barely moves when the crash happened, and after the hit, I could complete my way home driving the car. The Citroen….well, the motor was completely broken, the hood ends all bended-off, and finally the car needed a trailer to move of the highway!. People near the toll post and police (the police arrest both of those guys) couldn’t believe how strong the Audi 100 was. They asked me “what is this car?”, “where was this car made?”, or saying “what a tank that you're driving, man!”. My girlfriend and I were ok after the impact, no lesions thank god, and the car. The match ends 1-0 Audi vs Citroen. We won, je. 8)

Then, we started the claim to the insurance company. It took more than six months getting the money from them (Argentine burocracy, unbelievable), but we did it, and now, with extra money from my father and my girl, we took the oportunity to repaint and fix the whole body of the car. It deserved for being such a great car, and besides we love it.

A few days ago, the Audi was ready. Among other things, we installed the 3rd review mirror (this car hasn’t, but I could get the original one), rebuild the headlights, rebuild bumpers and all the floors, repaint the badges….we think it really works!
Here some pictures with before and after.

http://es.directupload.net/galerie/461028/yC7rwbv6TC/0

There still work to do. First to come: Installing the rubber mountings! Then I need to repair the odometer and velocimeter, with the light-board regulator (neither of them works, and I couldn’t get some supplier that can make me the spare parts), and finally the air conditioner, but this last one will be repaired by the beginning of the next year, because of the money we need.

That's all for the moment. Sorry that I can't read the whole forum (language is my limitant, and google translator is like talking martian :lol: ) but I'm still here for what you people want to say.

Best regards from this side of the world. We’ll keep in touch!
Emiliano

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#2 Beitrag von wy422 »

Nice to meet you again, Emiliano! you are a fine guy and it´s good to hear, that you and your car is already fixed!
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#3 Beitrag von wy422 »

Emiliano ist ein netter Typ, er hat mir zu Weihnachten sogar eine Flasche Wein und Kekse aus dem fernen Argentinien zukommen lassen. (ÜBer die Schwester in Spanien). Er gibt sich redlich Mühe, den Wagen am Laufen zu lassen, was was heißen will angesichts der Tatsache, dass uns hier ja nur wenige argentinische Typ 43 bekannt sind.
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Hi Emiliano,

great to hear you are taking pride in keeping your Audi on the road. Now you know your car is rather solid after that crash. Well, when I hear that you have problems with odometer and speedometer: What exact model and engine do you have? Can you upload a picture of your instrument cluster? Maybe someone here has spare parts for you. There are many different designs of instruments due to changes that were made for nearly every model and every year.
Speaking about the wire potentiometer that regulates the instrument illumination please note that frequently just oxidation is the cause of darkness. You can try to rub away oxid with a fine sandpaper (clean the track of the slider).

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:?: Wenn Du es selbst instandgesetzt hast, weisst Du auch, wie lange es halten wird und warum es wieder kaputt gehen könnte :D

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#5 Beitrag von Emiliano »

Hi Joerg! Thanks for writing me. Yes, I feel a kind of pride, because of the complications for doing any repair here in Argentina over this kind of car. It’s not easy (and too much cost) to get spare parts, and people who can do the job and knowing how to do it (sometimes I did myself some minor job, I’m not useful for mechanical! jajaja).

Anyway, do you like the finished job with painting and bodywork?

Here is the data:
Audi 100 GL5s Year 1980
Automatic
Engine: wb109952
Chasis: 43A0169025

And this is a picture of the instrument board:

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Problem is, while I know this is a common problem of this model and I do have the information that Typ43 forum gave me two years ago, I can’t get the spare parts (some plastic gears) or someone who can make them here in Argentina. Another problem could be the “box” for doing the speed measure, which is located near the automatic gearbox, because a couple of year ago, the oil radiator had broken and it spread large amounts of oil inside this box. I hope this particular thing could be solved by only doing the clean of that “box”. We’ll see.

I take note about potentiometer. Hope you’re right and it would be all about oxidation, could be a great news for me!

Thanks again for this time you’d took for writing Joerg.

P.D.1: And thanks to you Klaus for being such a great guy. You know, your kindness will always be much more than a bottle of wine.

P.D.2: Just for curiosity: Do you guys know what is the function of this kind of air-electrical switch? There are many opinions here (just carburetor, just servo, automatic gearbox?) and I can’t find the function on my Haynes Book….

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Old Rusty hat geschrieben:Hi Emiliano,

great to hear you are taking pride in keeping your Audi on the road. Now you know your car is rather solid after that crash. Well, when I hear that you have problems with odometer and speedometer: What exact model and engine do you have? Can you upload a picture of your instrument cluster? Maybe someone here has spare parts for you. There are many different designs of instruments due to changes that were made for nearly every model and every year.
Speaking about the wire potentiometer that regulates the instrument illumination please note that frequently just oxidation is the cause of darkness. You can try to rub away oxid with a fine sandpaper (clean the track of the slider).

Regards,
Joerg

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#6 Beitrag von Andreas »

Hi Emiliano,

this part is a so called "Zweiwegeventil" (two way valve). It belongs to the vacuum System of the AC.

Greetings

Andreas

PS: the plastic gears for the speedometer drive are still available.

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#7 Beitrag von Emiliano »

Hello Andreas!! Thanks for writing, I remember you, and the help you gave me in many times :lol:

Vaccum for the AC!!! Well, with this issue you can see how is the knowing' level for my mechanicals guys :roll:
With your data, I'll take it when we make the rebuild of the AC.

Regarding the plastic gears: Great news!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Next questions would be: Where I can buy them?? Does this plastic gears would be enough for repairing odometer and speedometer, or will I need another set for the odometer?

Best regards!
Emiliano
Andreas hat geschrieben:Hi Emiliano,

this part is a so called "Zweiwegeventil" (two way valve). It belongs to the vacuum System of the AC.

Greetings

Andreas

PS: the plastic gears for the speedometer drive are still available.

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#8 Beitrag von Andreas »

Hello Emiliano,

You're welcome!
The part number of the plastic gear für the speedometer drive is 010 409 196. It should be possible to order this part online very cheap, just google it. It should also be available at your local VW/Audi Dealer.

And now the odometer: inside the whole speedo/odometer arrangement there is also a small plastic gear. Its very likely that is has a small crack. This little gear drives a shaft which again turns the Kilometers. It´s a common fault on VDO Speedos.
There´s a guy at the german Ebay who sells those little gears:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/M15-Zahnrad-fur- ... 1392780473?

Best regards

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#9 Beitrag von Emiliano »

Hi Andreas! Thanks for the answer and the quick response! Just great.

Well, the OEM part for the speedometer gear, it makes all easy. But here in Argentina is not available, at least by phone (I checked with four big retails and nothing happens), but I found a link on Ebay (from United States!), so I'll buy it.

The odometer gear: I saw the link, thank you very much, but I have to ask you: Is this link "ready to buy"? Or should I talk with the guy and give him some data? Because I translated the page with google (the translation is awful) and I saw something about ask first, give some data about the exact need, and then buy....and I don't know the exact data for this gear...

Thanks again Andreas!
Andreas hat geschrieben:Hello Emiliano,

You're welcome!
The part number of the plastic gear für the speedometer drive is 010 409 196. It should be possible to order this part online very cheap, just google it. It should also be available at your local VW/Audi Dealer.

And now the odometer: inside the whole speedo/odometer arrangement there is also a small plastic gear. Its very likely that is has a small crack. This little gear drives a shaft which again turns the Kilometers. It´s a common fault on VDO Speedos.
There´s a guy at the german Ebay who sells those little gears:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/M15-Zahnrad-fur- ... 1392780473?

Best regards

Andreas

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Hi Emiliano,

no it´s not ready to buy, he needs to know the number of teeth of your gear, i think it would also be safer to tell him the diameter of it.

Here is a picture of a defective odometer, the gear already broken in two pieces. The red circle shows where the little gear would normally sit:
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Best regards

Andreas

PS: If your dashboard light potentiometer doesn´t come to life after the sandpaper treatment, here are two examples at Ebay.com:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-5000-100-2 ... 1939837906?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-VOLKSWAGEN ... 0302215955?

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These are pretty fine teeths. On our main home page http://www.typ43.eu you will find on the left side "Wissenswertes" and there on the right side "Reparaturwissen" and there under "Elektrik" a repair manual by clicking on Instandsetzung defekter Kilometerzähler.

I was able to repair the gear itself with a small lock ring. It works for many years but I'm sure, I just had luck: Seeger-Ring. You can see, that this gear (as well as egge's above) has much bigger but less teeth. So it's clear, that you have to measure first before ordering.

Ähem, by the way, Emilio: Great job accomplished with your Audi 100, just watched your picture gallery. Glad to see, that everything AND everybody is well again or still, respectively!
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Andreas, great information as usual when you are transmiting :lol:
Thanks again, and sorry for too much questioning from my side.
Ok, so, I need to disarm the Instrument Panel and see for myself because of the gear. The idea was to do all in one operation: Disarm, change, repair. Since you saw the picture of my instrument panel, do you think there's more than one alternative for this gear?
The pontentiometer: Priceless information! Took note about it. I couldn't believe it's still available for buying! Seems to be that my instrument panel will come to live very soon. :lol:
Keep in touch and thanks again man!
Emiliano
Andreas hat geschrieben:Hi Emiliano,

no it´s not ready to buy, he needs to know the number of teeth of your gear, i think it would also be safer to tell him the diameter of it.

Here is a picture of a defective odometer, the gear already broken in two pieces. The red circle shows where the little gear would normally sit:
Bild

Best regards

Andreas

PS: If your dashboard light potentiometer doesn´t come to life after the sandpaper treatment, here are two examples at Ebay.com:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-5000-100-2 ... 1939837906?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-VOLKSWAGEN ... 0302215955?

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#13 Beitrag von Emiliano »

Hi Michael !!! It's been a long time before our last talk ! Thanks for seeing the pictures, I'm glad that you aporove the job. I don't know if there in Germany this kind of cars still get the attention from the people in the street, but here the people are always looking at the Audi since we painted, and I have no less than 3 offers for buying it ! (needless to say: I'LL NEVER SELL THIS CAR :lol: ).
Regarding odometer: Yes, this info was already in my hands. I dind't know it was you the guy who repaired for the procedure! Congratulations, great solution of yours. On my side, well, about four years ago, and specialist disarmed the main panel and told me that plastic gear was the problem, but he never gave to me the data. So, if this is changing between models as you people say, I will disarmed again and do the measures.
How about you? How is your super 200?

Keep in toch!
Emiliano
Michael hat geschrieben:These are pretty fine teeths. On our main home page http://www.typ43.eu you will find on the left side "Wissenswertes" and there on the right side "Reparaturwissen" and there under "Elektrik" a repair manual by clicking on Instandsetzung defekter Kilometerzähler.

I was able to repair the gear itself with a small lock ring. It works for many years but I'm sure, I just had luck: Seeger-Ring. You can see, that this gear (as well as egge's above) has much bigger but less teeth. So it's clear, that you have to measure first before ordering.

Ähem, by the way, Emilio: Great job accomplished with your Audi 100, just watched your picture gallery. Glad to see, that everything AND everybody is well again or still, respectively!

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Gentleman's: Finally I disarmed (I did it myself this time!) the main board for repairing Tacho, Pontentiometer, etc.
First problem: Tacho doesn't have the gear we supposed still being there. So, I don't have any information about tooths, diameter....
Second problem: When I move the speedometer with my fingers by turning the rear conection, I see that the gear for the odometer moves a little but it stops moving after a while, regardless the lack of the (dissapeared) gear. I thing there is some problem there.

Since I don't have anything available right here to repair, I think several possibilities, such as:
- To buy one or more gear set (not only the dissapeared gear but also the other ones) if somebody can tell me by the pictures (attached) what kind of Tacho I've got.
- Sending the Tacho via postmail to a good service there in Germany (do you have some recomendation?)
- Purchasing some new tacho (are they available?) original or something that could be adapted.

What do you people recommend? Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance for reading and for any answer.

Best Regards,
Emiliano

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Emiliano hat geschrieben:Andreas, great information as usual when you are transmiting :lol:
Thanks again, and sorry for too much questioning from my side.
Ok, so, I need to disarm the Instrument Panel and see for myself because of the gear. The idea was to do all in one operation: Disarm, change, repair. Since you saw the picture of my instrument panel, do you think there's more than one alternative for this gear?
The pontentiometer: Priceless information! Took note about it. I couldn't believe it's still available for buying! Seems to be that my instrument panel will come to live very soon. :lol:
Keep in touch and thanks again man!
Emiliano
Andreas hat geschrieben:Hi Emiliano,

no it´s not ready to buy, he needs to know the number of teeth of your gear, i think it would also be safer to tell him the diameter of it.

Here is a picture of a defective odometer, the gear already broken in two pieces. The red circle shows where the little gear would normally sit:
Bild

Best regards

Andreas

PS: If your dashboard light potentiometer doesn´t come to life after the sandpaper treatment, here are two examples at Ebay.com:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-5000-100-2 ... 1939837906?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUDI-VOLKSWAGEN ... 0302215955?

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